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Fereshteh
Hello,

I have two questions,
1. I am using Marouter for stochastic user equilibrium assignment in two
scenarios, first, when all streets are open. Second, when some streets are
closed. But in both situations I received the same results. I wonder if the
additional file of closed links affect the output of Marouter rather than
the scenario in that all of the links are open?

2. By running meso-simulatio, sumo does not close all the closed links that
are defined in the additional file. For example, only 5 streets of 20 closed
streets of the additional file have been closed and shown by red color in
sumo. Could you please tell me what is wrong with my simulation?

I am using sumo v1_7_0. Is it related to the version and do I have to
install an update?

Sincerely,
Fereshteh



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Re: [sumo-user] link closure in marouter assignment

Jakob Erdmann
1) marouter does not support closing streets via additional file input. You have to provide another version of the network file where the corresponding edges are deleted.
2) What definitions are you loading to close the streets?

Am Mi., 3. März 2021 um 23:54 Uhr schrieb Fereshteh Jafari Shahdani <[hidden email]>:
Hello,

I have two questions,
1. I am using Marouter for stochastic user equilibrium assignment in two
scenarios, first, when all streets are open. Second, when some streets are
closed. But in both situations I received the same results. I wonder if the
additional file of closed links affect the output of Marouter rather than
the scenario in that all of the links are open?

2. By running meso-simulatio, sumo does not close all the closed links that
are defined in the additional file. For example, only 5 streets of 20 closed
streets of the additional file have been closed and shown by red color in
sumo. Could you please tell me what is wrong with my simulation?

I am using sumo v1_7_0. Is it related to the version and do I have to
install an update?

Sincerely,
Fereshteh



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Re: [sumo-user] link closure in marouter assignment

Fereshteh

<additional xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://sumo-sim.org/xsd/additional_file.xsd">
<rerouter id="rero1" edges="29661-29598 29900-29830 30074-29981 30084-30073 30609-30486 30833-30498 30862-30751 31129-30941 31332-30850 31874-31272 31913-31877 31929-31650 32067-31941 32185-32018 32465-32800 32465-32185 32465-32310 32531-32800 32602-9085 30862-30836 30914-30862 30941-30752 30941-30916 30084-30073 31129-30941" probability="1" >
<interval begin="0" end="86400">

<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="29661-29598"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="29900-29830"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30074-29981"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30084-30073"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30609-30486"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30833-30498"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30862-30751"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31129-30941"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31332-30850"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31874-31272"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31913-31877"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31929-31650"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32067-31941"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32185-32018"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32800"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32185"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32310"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32531-32800"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32602-9085"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30862-30836"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30914-30862"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30941-30752"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30941-30916"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30084-30073"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31129-30941"/>

</interval>
</rerouter>
</additional>


This is the additional file that I loaded for closing some streets. And the following command is used for mesosimulation:

sumo-gui -n base.net.xml -r od_file.odtrips.xml --mesosim true --additional-files vType2-additionalfile.xml,closed-links.xml,additionalfile2.xml -b 0 -e 86400 --random true --duration-log.statistics true --tripinfo-output.write-unfinished true --log LOGFILE

I don’t get why only some of these links rather all of them are closed in mesosim?

As another question, what type of route assignment is applied in mesosimulation? Is it SUE?
What I wanted to do was first, defining the routes via Marouter (SUE assignment) in different disruption scenarios and then runing meso-sim using the output of Marouter as the -r option of mesosim. But according to your reply, marouter does not support closing streets via additional file input and I don’t want to delete edges from the network. So, if I use the odtrips file in -r option of mesosim directly, does mesosim use SUE or DUE for assigning the routes? 

Sincerely,
Fereshteh 

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:55 AM Jakob Erdmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
1) marouter does not support closing streets via additional file input. You have to provide another version of the network file where the corresponding edges are deleted.
2) What definitions are you loading to close the streets?

Am Mi., 3. März 2021 um 23:54 Uhr schrieb Fereshteh Jafari Shahdani <[hidden email]>:
Hello,

I have two questions,
1. I am using Marouter for stochastic user equilibrium assignment in two
scenarios, first, when all streets are open. Second, when some streets are
closed. But in both situations I received the same results. I wonder if the
additional file of closed links affect the output of Marouter rather than
the scenario in that all of the links are open?

2. By running meso-simulatio, sumo does not close all the closed links that
are defined in the additional file. For example, only 5 streets of 20 closed
streets of the additional file have been closed and shown by red color in
sumo. Could you please tell me what is wrong with my simulation?

I am using sumo v1_7_0. Is it related to the version and do I have to
install an update?

Sincerely,
Fereshteh



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Re: [sumo-user] link closure in marouter assignment

Jakob Erdmann
I also don't see a good reason why the closingReroute should only be applied to some of the edges. Please zip up your input files and send them for investigation.
The assignment algorithm when loading trips for micro and meso is this: https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Demand/Dynamic_User_Assignment.html#oneshot-assignment.

regards,
Jakob

Am Do., 4. März 2021 um 10:29 Uhr schrieb fereshte jafari <[hidden email]>:

<additional xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://sumo-sim.org/xsd/additional_file.xsd">
<rerouter id="rero1" edges="29661-29598 29900-29830 30074-29981 30084-30073 30609-30486 30833-30498 30862-30751 31129-30941 31332-30850 31874-31272 31913-31877 31929-31650 32067-31941 32185-32018 32465-32800 32465-32185 32465-32310 32531-32800 32602-9085 30862-30836 30914-30862 30941-30752 30941-30916 30084-30073 31129-30941" probability="1" >
<interval begin="0" end="86400">

<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="29661-29598"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="29900-29830"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30074-29981"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30084-30073"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30609-30486"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30833-30498"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30862-30751"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31129-30941"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31332-30850"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31874-31272"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31913-31877"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31929-31650"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32067-31941"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32185-32018"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32800"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32185"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32310"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32531-32800"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32602-9085"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30862-30836"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30914-30862"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30941-30752"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30941-30916"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30084-30073"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31129-30941"/>

</interval>
</rerouter>
</additional>


This is the additional file that I loaded for closing some streets. And the following command is used for mesosimulation:

sumo-gui -n base.net.xml -r od_file.odtrips.xml --mesosim true --additional-files vType2-additionalfile.xml,closed-links.xml,additionalfile2.xml -b 0 -e 86400 --random true --duration-log.statistics true --tripinfo-output.write-unfinished true --log LOGFILE

I don’t get why only some of these links rather all of them are closed in mesosim?

As another question, what type of route assignment is applied in mesosimulation? Is it SUE?
What I wanted to do was first, defining the routes via Marouter (SUE assignment) in different disruption scenarios and then runing meso-sim using the output of Marouter as the -r option of mesosim. But according to your reply, marouter does not support closing streets via additional file input and I don’t want to delete edges from the network. So, if I use the odtrips file in -r option of mesosim directly, does mesosim use SUE or DUE for assigning the routes? 

Sincerely,
Fereshteh 

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:55 AM Jakob Erdmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
1) marouter does not support closing streets via additional file input. You have to provide another version of the network file where the corresponding edges are deleted.
2) What definitions are you loading to close the streets?

Am Mi., 3. März 2021 um 23:54 Uhr schrieb Fereshteh Jafari Shahdani <[hidden email]>:
Hello,

I have two questions,
1. I am using Marouter for stochastic user equilibrium assignment in two
scenarios, first, when all streets are open. Second, when some streets are
closed. But in both situations I received the same results. I wonder if the
additional file of closed links affect the output of Marouter rather than
the scenario in that all of the links are open?

2. By running meso-simulatio, sumo does not close all the closed links that
are defined in the additional file. For example, only 5 streets of 20 closed
streets of the additional file have been closed and shown by red color in
sumo. Could you please tell me what is wrong with my simulation?

I am using sumo v1_7_0. Is it related to the version and do I have to
install an update?

Sincerely,
Fereshteh



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Re: [sumo-user] link closure in marouter assignment

Fereshteh
Thanks Jakob. I downloaded the last version of sumo and now the closure file is loaded completely and truly.

Sincerely,
Fereshteh 

On 4 Mar 2021, at 21:23, Jakob Erdmann <[hidden email]> wrote:


I also don't see a good reason why the closingReroute should only be applied to some of the edges. Please zip up your input files and send them for investigation.
The assignment algorithm when loading trips for micro and meso is this: https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Demand/Dynamic_User_Assignment.html#oneshot-assignment.

regards,
Jakob

Am Do., 4. März 2021 um 10:29 Uhr schrieb fereshte jafari <[hidden email]>:

<additional xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://sumo-sim.org/xsd/additional_file.xsd">
<rerouter id="rero1" edges="29661-29598 29900-29830 30074-29981 30084-30073 30609-30486 30833-30498 30862-30751 31129-30941 31332-30850 31874-31272 31913-31877 31929-31650 32067-31941 32185-32018 32465-32800 32465-32185 32465-32310 32531-32800 32602-9085 30862-30836 30914-30862 30941-30752 30941-30916 30084-30073 31129-30941" probability="1" >
<interval begin="0" end="86400">

<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="29661-29598"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="29900-29830"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30074-29981"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30084-30073"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30609-30486"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30833-30498"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30862-30751"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31129-30941"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31332-30850"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31874-31272"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31913-31877"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31929-31650"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32067-31941"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32185-32018"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32800"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32185"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32465-32310"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32531-32800"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="32602-9085"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30862-30836"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30914-30862"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30941-30752"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30941-30916"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="30084-30073"/>
<closingReroute  disallow="all" id="31129-30941"/>

</interval>
</rerouter>
</additional>


This is the additional file that I loaded for closing some streets. And the following command is used for mesosimulation:

sumo-gui -n base.net.xml -r od_file.odtrips.xml --mesosim true --additional-files vType2-additionalfile.xml,closed-links.xml,additionalfile2.xml -b 0 -e 86400 --random true --duration-log.statistics true --tripinfo-output.write-unfinished true --log LOGFILE

I don’t get why only some of these links rather all of them are closed in mesosim?

As another question, what type of route assignment is applied in mesosimulation? Is it SUE?
What I wanted to do was first, defining the routes via Marouter (SUE assignment) in different disruption scenarios and then runing meso-sim using the output of Marouter as the -r option of mesosim. But according to your reply, marouter does not support closing streets via additional file input and I don’t want to delete edges from the network. So, if I use the odtrips file in -r option of mesosim directly, does mesosim use SUE or DUE for assigning the routes? 

Sincerely,
Fereshteh 

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:55 AM Jakob Erdmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
1) marouter does not support closing streets via additional file input. You have to provide another version of the network file where the corresponding edges are deleted.
2) What definitions are you loading to close the streets?

Am Mi., 3. März 2021 um 23:54 Uhr schrieb Fereshteh Jafari Shahdani <[hidden email]>:
Hello,

I have two questions,
1. I am using Marouter for stochastic user equilibrium assignment in two
scenarios, first, when all streets are open. Second, when some streets are
closed. But in both situations I received the same results. I wonder if the
additional file of closed links affect the output of Marouter rather than
the scenario in that all of the links are open?

2. By running meso-simulatio, sumo does not close all the closed links that
are defined in the additional file. For example, only 5 streets of 20 closed
streets of the additional file have been closed and shown by red color in
sumo. Could you please tell me what is wrong with my simulation?

I am using sumo v1_7_0. Is it related to the version and do I have to
install an update?

Sincerely,
Fereshteh



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